944 manual transmission swap

944 manual transmission swap

Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 22 nd, 2013 Gender: I just recently purchased two 944's in pretty bad condition (entire brake system taken off, master cylinders missing, fuel pump starting to fail) One of them is in a better condition than the other, but it's an auto, so I'm planning on swapping the transmission from the manual car to the automatic car. I've seen some online manuals, and it seems simple (but still arduous) enough. I've done simple car fixes before, like window regulators, and speaker installations, but never in the engine or transmission. SO, the bottom line is, I was wondering if anyone of you more veteran 944 owners would be able give me some tips on switching the transmissions, replacing master cylinders, re-installing the hubs, and just general tips on the 944. Thanks for reading! -Luke I need the rubber part that attaches to the fly wheel. I have an automatic 944 im trying to bring back to life. Where are you located. Thanks Chris Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 22 nd, 2013 Gender: But the cars I bought are located in West Point, Ca. Do you think you could switch the transmissions for me. Hell, I'll give you the whole auto transmission if you could do that for me. Im already feeling a bit over my head. Do you have the parts out already. Im in Denver. I have my car in 50 pieces in the garage trying to figure it out. If not Or your not sure Send me your vin numbers and I'll check for you Posts: 6133 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 23 rd, 2010 Gender: It's about the same type of project as turboing an NA.Fix the auto and flip it or frankenstein all the parts into the manual and build yourself a stockpile of spares.The will tell you the deal. They'll also tell you what you should pull from the auto before you dispose of it, unless you plan to keep the hulk around as a parts sled. Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 22 nd, 2013 Gender: I just saw all the parts that I need to swap. Both cars are 1983. The guides that Ian posted up are really helpful.http://www.starwheelfoundation.org/userfiles/3m-1256b-manual.xml

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I'll plan to call them tomorrow then, thanks guys. I should be fine If I just take the parts from the manual car listed in his steps and just put them into the auto car right. I don't really care about reassembling the auto car because I'm just going to get that hauled away or sold. Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 22 nd, 2013 Gender: I heard that I would need a spacer to put these on my 1983, where would I have to put it. Would it be ok If I just put washers on it? Posts: 6133 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 23 rd, 2010 Gender: I just saw all the parts that I need to swap. Both cars are 1983. No, you will not be OK. Trust me when i say that it's over the heads of experienced mechanics, let alone someone new to 944s and cars in general. Get a different idea. And you cannot use washers in place of spacers ? Posts: 5 Joined: Jan 22 nd, 2013 Gender: I'm going to try to see if I can find a mechanic who would take my other 944 to switch the auto to manual. Do you guys know of anyone would take it? This is a job of nightmare proportion SERIOUSLY As Jason said previously - Get a different idea.Thus have limited appeal to Porsche 944 ownership. Some here own these cars and love them, some are looking to own a stick, not many are looking to do the same job you are. Sounds as tho maybe you are given the opportunity to make some interesting choices here. Please do yourself a favor and spare yourself the money loss and grief you seem to wish to endeavor and just go buy a decent 944 ---not needing the swap over. Use these parts cars as sources for your 'good' car or part them off and sell the remainder. Best wishes on the choice at hand. Mounting the components was a little different because on that car, stuff was out of a newer car and holes werent there to mount things.Hydraulic lines are the only things being 'added'.The shift linkage had to be ground a little to not bind, and i had to fabricate a bracket for the pedal to be held in place.http://englandmatchshirts.com/assets/3ld1-repair-manual.xml

I'm new to this forum, as well as car maintenance etc. I just recently purchased two 944's in pretty bad condition (entire brake system taken off, master cylinders missing, fuel pump starting to fail) One of them is in a better condition than the other, but it's an auto, so I'm planning on swapping the transmission from the manual car to the automatic car. I've seen some online manuals, and it seems simple (but still arduous) enough. I've done simple car fixes before, like window regulators, and speaker installations, but never in the engine or transmission. SO, the bottom line is, I was wondering if anyone of you more veteran 944 owners would be able give me some tips on switching the transmissions, replacing master cylinders, re-installing the hubs, and just general tips on the 944. Good luck, hope I gave you some ideas! Posts: 6133 Location: New Jersey Joined: Nov 23 rd, 2010 Gender: I have 3 NAs and 3 Turbos right now. I have a lightweight track car and a full shop. I restore water-cooled, front-engined Porsches for money. I know a lot about these cars, and about mechanics in general. It needed a little work but it was a solid driver. He got behind on the simplest thing, oil. He ended up spinning a rod bearing and, for all intents and purposes, destroying his motor as he drove it home compromised instead of waiting for me to come and trailer his car. No problem, I went on craigslist and found a non-runner that I could pull the motor from, rebuild and swap into his car. Well, I go to see the car and it's an auto. It was also very, very nice. I haggled a little bit and bought the car and took it back to my shop. It's so nice that I try to convince my dad to just let me fix it and to take it instead and let me take his LSD car apart and just use it as a shell for a race car. No dice, he wants a five speed. I put my dad's car back on the road, spent about 2 grand with Ian sold a bunch of stuff and still have parts for cars that I'm working on AS WE SPEAK.

Cherry pick the parts you need for your manual and use the automatic car to pay for the rest of the work you need to do on the one you'll keep. It's a sin to kill a nice car, unless it's to keep another one running. Taking the car apart will also teach you so much about how they work that it will make working on your other one that much more pleasurable. I'm done with this thread. Good luck. Im fixxing an 85 - auto - 944. I just picked up an 83 with a manual transmission. How involved is it to convert the automatic to manual using the older car as a donor? Join PCA to participate in our community. I have a 2003 911 Carrera. The digital clock on the dash has two lights to the left of the digits to designate AM and PM (I think). The question is which is AM and which is PM? All Rights Reserved. The site may not work properly if you don't update your browser. If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit old reddit. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Log in sign up User account menu 4 I'm looking to do an auto-manual conversion If you feel as though you have been given a sufficient response to your question, please reply with Solved or Resolved anywhere in the comments. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. All rights reserved Back to top. Dare I also say it, 928. - though that is a little further down the list. Just to be clear - I would only buy an auto if I thought it could be converted. What say ye, those of more experience?? I don't think so, I drove one recently and I liked it, unless you had money to burn I can't see why you would do it imo. I don't think so, I drove one recently and I liked it, unless you had money to burn I can't see why you would do it imo. I can see where he is coming from.

Particularly if you are looking at a non daily driver that you have for the pure joy of driving, it has to be manual. For me at least I just don't get that same feel from an auto. Daily driving in traffic is a different story though. Had to ask it, though. Particularly if you are looking at a non daily driver that you have for the pure joy of driving, it has to be manual. For me at least I just don't get that same feel from an auto. Daily driving in traffic is a different story though. Absolutely spot on. Changing gear manually is an intrinsic part of the fun of driving for me, no matter what the car or circumstance.I can't give you specifics on the conversion as the guy had to return overseas at short notice. He had most of the conversion done and I just had to finish it. That said as Bruce has indicated you would have to have donar cars as parts, they are not as readily available as an S2. Having owned an S2 I would say there is really not a lot of difference in Performance between the two cars apart from about 30 HP and an extra gear, everything else is the same. As too what the value of my car is, who knows ????? But what a drive !!! Paste as plain text instead Display as a link instead Clear editor Upload or insert images from URL. Find a totaled 951, wish a smashed up tub, and swap over. The turbo is quite a different animal compared to the NA. Internals, plumbing, suspension, gearing, braking, and aerodynamics are different. Ive owned both. My current 951 is a boosted 3.0. Bout 400 to the wheels. Big gains are possible with boost. I am only 19 Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies.

Preferably 4 to allow for the remainder youConventional (dinosaur) oil will do, but synthetics such asThe differentThe plugs are on theThis Allen key is readilyPart of the endThis can make service muchThen remove the bottom plug and drain the oldThe best thing is to find a hand-pump withLubri-Matic makesIt greatly eases theHaynes really confused me. Hint:This transmission isThis is referred to the snailshell, because of the pattern of theHowever, it is even more easily identified by theUnfortunately, they were only in the '79 924's, so not all rebuild parts are readily available. Bad news is, they are unique to the 924,If they must be replaced, an entire new gear must be fitted, for. For this reason, a '79 924 with a bad gearbox is oftenMore about that later. A 3-speed automatic was also available for the 924, and it was of Audi origin as well.Fortunately, it tends to be the mostThe only issue here canThe torque tube also has a largerThe same reliabilityIn 1981, the 931Consequently, a 944 trans can be used in a 931 as aWell, there are details of the procedure inOtherwise, you're looking to swap in a trans, eitherThis is somewhat bolt-in, but does require removal ofThe latter must be swapped out due toI recommend trying toActually, you should change your clutch (andIf it does, the guide tube (which bolts into theHowever, to install the 944 type trans with the large shafts, without changing over theTurns out, the clutch for an 83The transmission is easierIt is lighter. There are more gearsets available and it is easierHere's a few more pictures of the differentThe coupler on the left is from an 80 931This is not surprising, given the length of theThe most popular choice for this is to actually install aGeneral consensus on these seems to be that it doesIn this case, only bushings must be replaced.Part number for these is 999 924 002 40.The are partThen the joint is separated.

A 13mm bolt is removed and theThe plastic bushings can beThe seal gets there by being inside a tubeThe old microfiche, etc., will be correct. Part 999 113 275 40. So I now have a lifetime supply and willThe o-ring is being used as a gasket so itThen slide the coupler rearward onto theThe driveshaft and input shaftDO NOT OVERTORQUE the pinch bolts! It appears to be similar to the transmission used inOne listmember who used anFluid type is Dextron II or superseded (oftenKeep in mind that theThe service isIt is highly adviseable to thoroughly clean theSimply wipe them off. Finally refill the transmission withIt should have a 1-2' hose on the end of it, to beThe instructionsOnce the bearingsThe shaft will come out pretty easily, asIf the shaftAgain, take measurements of the locations of the bearingThe bearings are then pushed back into the tube, and the shaft. Unfortunately, this is how we pay the bills and our authors. We would love for you to enjoy our content, we've worked hard on providing it. Please whitelist our site in your adblocker, refresh the page, and enjoy! However, the main reason happens to be his LS engine swaps. For instance, he swapped out the original engine in a 1983 Porsche 944 and stuck a 5.3-liter aluminum block engine into it. After that, Craig and I will walk you through the major aspects of this build. Then a local junkyard will give him a call: “Hey Craig, we’ve got a “insert LS-equipped vehicle model here” that just came in and the engine still runs. Do you want it?” So, off he goes again to acquire the engine. Usually, they’re also high mileage stock engines. See, Craig goes against what has been automotive engine building industry “common sense” for as long as I can remember: “Grab a junkyard engine with more than 80k miles on it you need to completely rebuild it before sticking it in your hot rod.” The 5.3 LS he stuck in the 944. Yeah, it had over 140 THOUSAND miles on it when he pulled it and brought it to his shop.

That’s 140 with three zeroes my friends. The only aftermarket component on the bottom end of this engine is a Holley oil pan because the stock one wouldn’t fit. He stuck an “almost stock” TH400 transmission by CK Performance in it with a 3500 stall torque converter from PTC-Performance Torque Converters. He’s got Mickey Thompson 275-60-15 drag radials underneath it. Running the turbo at 12 PSI of boost, he turned a 9.98 second quarter mile pass. At the track, Craig changed the tune so the wastegate doesn’t pop until the turbo hits 20 PSI of boost. With that setup he was able to turn a 9.7 in the quarter through the traps. It’s highly likely that nothing ever will be. In his quest for speed and the optimal balance on the 944, Craig pulled the 76 mm turbo out and installed one of his own 78 mm turbos. He then took it to the track and proceeded to shave another tenth of a second off his previous best, running a 9.6 through the traps on the quarter mile. He pulled the top end of the engine apart and stuck the cam from a 6.0 LS from an LS1 Camaro in.Once that was dialed in, off to the track he went. At the drop of the green, he hammered it, and dropped the transmission. That was embarrassing, having to tow the 944 back to the shop. To ensure that the transmission could handle the output of the engine, Craig had it built with billet internals by CK Performance again. First, he stopped off and put t up on a dyno, just for gits and shiggles. The dyno told him he was going somewhere: 730 horses running around under the hood of the around 2,500 pound car. His best pass in this configuration was an extremely respectable 9.49 seconds. However, that horsepower figure of over 730 started becoming problematic. He had a tapping, knocking sound coming from under the hood. His experience told him right away what it was: “I’ve got a Gen3 LS engine.

” When he tore it down, he discovered that he was absolutely correct, he’d bent a rod and it was causing the piston skirt to dance on the cylinder bore. Time to tear it down and basically start afresh. Such as standard head gaskets and Chinese Pro-FormX head studs. One of his pricier acquisitions was the Z06 intake he’s now using. This required him to pull the Porsche stock Bosch 044 fuel pump and install a Holley 1200, but that also allowed the mix to go lean at higher boost pressures. Now it’s got a Holley Billet 1600 pump and supports up to 25 PSI of boost quite easily. Not enough fuel volume being delivered. For staging, he’s using a bump box of his own design. Under the hood he’s got a Wilwood manual master cylinder. That’s being aided by a Walker remote dual diaphragm brake booster mounted in the trunk. Out back he had to do something very different. He burned out the stock calipers, so he put together a custom bracket and is using two pairs of stock 95 Mustang calipers, with the second pair being plumbed to the primary brake circuit. This lets him launch like a crazy bat when the green drops. He fabricated a customer air-water cooler for the tranny cooler and stuck into a lunch box under the passenger seat. He also stuck a fan-cooled cooler under the rear bumper and equipped it with a 180 degree thermostat. Up front he’s running the factory struts with KYB gas cartridges. Out back it’s running a set of customized coil-overs he got off e-bay. To help support the extra weight, he also installed a set of 79 VW Bus air shocks. Instead of the stock coils, he sliced a set of 95 Honda Civic coils in half and installed them. He’s promised to update us in the comments, so check back in about a week. For more information about this and his other builds or to hit him up for advice, check out his Youtube channel labeled “Just Insane.” We welcome your submissions. See here for details. He has held positions in all areas of the automotive industry from sales to pumping gas.

Mike has also built and raced cars in the amateur levels of most race sanctioning bodies. I write and post them because they are unique; they aren’t the ever-present F-Body LS swaps we see and read about all the time. Does he have pictures. I’d love to write about that if he has pictures detailing the build process. I wish you would publish more like it. I do think a Porsche chassis would be better used if it were tuned as a high performance road car. Got a personal car in mind that you’d like to see in print? There are barely any parts left in the set up that the previous owner used accept a few minor tid bits for example parts the of the motor mounts are reused and the 8.8 housing it self but not the internals, I also reused the radiator but built a much better cooling system. I redid the steering shaft design and made it manual and i completely changed the front and rear suspension design and set up. EVERY thing about the build was completely redone and changed to my liking. The car was not insanely fast as you put it it, in fact it didnt even start or run, the trans was blown and the tune in the ecu was a cobbled wreck and it had honda spark plugs in the block that leaked compression due to being the wrong seat design. I redid the brake system completely front to back and inside the dash. I can go on and on and on about all the items i had to spend time correcting and redoing, It almost would have been faster to start with a 944 that hadnt been started on. I have several months invested in rebuilding this car from the ground up so for you to assume your going to belittle my investment think again. But because i am a nice guy i left all that out of the interview because i wasnt about to bash the previous owners attempts and be little him.First off some good news the car recently went a 8.94 at 156 in street trim and that video can be found on my youtube channel. Now for the reason I am posting.

It was brought to my attention that two individuals tried to post on here that the credit of building this car does not belong to me. So lets get the facts straight shall we. I did not want to hurt the previous owners feelings so I never made it public all the mistakes and issues I had to correct and redo, In fact I simply sucked it up and attacked the project head on as if i had started from a unmolested car.I planned on building a 944 to replace my Datsun 240z so i was happy to find one on Craigslist that appeared some one had started and done most of the labor already. I drove the 6 hours 1 way drive only to find a car that not only didn’t run but looked like it was built by a group of freshmen for a school project. I decided that since I was already there and i was sure I could make use of allot of the labor already invested I bought it with out even hearing it run ( because it didn’t ) I got it home and started the process of tearing into the car to identify any safety concerns and it was like a onion, the more i peeled the more i found that wasn’t up to my standards.The motor and trans he had in the car both had issues and had to be scrapped. So I decided the best thing was to identify what could be salvaged and reused and simply start over on the rest. There is very little left from the original owners attempts, small bits and pieces remain and others I altered or redid over from scratch.But i pushed on and made it happen. My intention from day 1 was never to have to hurt the previous owners feelings or bash his attempt in any way but i feel i was backed into a corner and left no choice. Back on track stay tuned for more exciting things to come here at JS Racing Products, we have allot of cool stuff coming up. I think Craig covered it already with his statement but I want to add that any one who follows him on youtube and watches the kind of stuff he does already knows exactly what kind of guy he is. He is one of the last true good guys left.

I am sure he is now regretting his post. Can’t wait to see what you do next. I got rid of the car because of financial reasons and it was very far from finished so my hats off to you for getting thing down the track so fast. I legitimately thought people might want to see more pictures of the car. I just wanted you ( or your co worker ) to under stand that the car today has nothing left other then the shell and a few small tid bits of what it was when i first got it. I really did not want to have to say stuff in public about having to redo so much of the car over and risk hurting any ones feelings but i guess not putting it in there caused more of a ruckus.Not embarrassed either. So it really doesn’t matter to me, I was just happy to see it go down the track ?? His gf Channel is also wanted on charges and on the run with him. You can also subscribe without commenting. We also invite you to join other enthusiasts and fans in discussing The General in our GM Forums. Please note that GM Authority is a product of Motrolix LLC and is not sponsored, owned, or in any other way condoned by General Motors Company, its brands, subsidiaries, or partners. We also encourage you to check out our sister publications. It currently has a 4spd bus transmission in it, but it is close to expiring. I found a Porsche 944 5spd transmission with low miles for a great price, but am not sure if it will fit with the VR6 in the van set up ( I am new to the vanagon world). I've never heard of a manual 944 trans in a Vanagon.